martes, febrero 26, 2008

23rd february 2008 Concert: Unreal Overflows, Fallen Sentinel & Kathaarsys


Last saturday I was in a concert 50 km far from Vigo. That was a small town I have never been before called Cambados. A nice place with good seaside sight.
The previous night I went to a erasmus party. It was the first one of this semester, and people were quite shy at the beginning, most of them didnt know each other, but with a bit of time and alcohol all got better :P
There I met some new and funny international students. Occassions like this one make me to question what I should really do about the erasmus help, cause it's really funny and interesting for me to meet new people and help in every chance I can (the thing that annoys me more is the organization itself, the International Relations Office of Vigo). So, in spite of not going out with them, I had a nice time in that party in the flat. I tell this because I have found there one guy that just said to me... "hey you seem to like rock or metal.." :)
And I told "yes.. mostly this kind..", so after that, he asked me to tell him about concerts and I just told him "come tomorrow! you will see 3 of the best galician bands together!", and inmediately he joined :)
So, saturday evening, we went road to Cambados, until that, unknown place.
After hanging out for a while and eating something, we arrived to the place, a little pub called Esmorga.
Some people outside dressed in black.. not too many.. (maybe around 50 or 60 in the concert)
And after waiting drinking some beer, the concert got started.

Unreal Overflows
A band that drinks influence straight from Death (the band). Sound, composing, even lyrics, I think. All is so so copied from that great band, that they could be the new "Death" ones (since that band had splited up when the death of their creator and songwriter Chuck Schuldiner).
I have seen them for first time 1 year ago in a summer fest in a place near Vigo. They do a great job, but they should find to reach a bit originality.
They did maybe the best show in that festival, but inside this little pub, they were quite insipid. They seemed too shy or I dont know...
Playing part was ok, though sound wasnt very good. They are good musicians, but, I guess that place is not the best to do a concert, I mean, not very prepared.





Fallen Sentinel
Fallen is a band of Gothic Black Progressive Metal. Sorry that I cannot define them with less words XD. They are becoming a bigger band since they made "Eternity & Before", an album that put them in the scene of even national metal.
At the present they are about to take out their new album, that I just listened already many times some songs just in concerts, and I have to say that I am really excited with getting that new one. New songs sound great.
Fallen is definitely one of the best bands of Galicia. I have seen them quite a lot of times, and most of them I enjoyed it. But this time wasnt the best. They had bad sound, I couldnt almost listen keyboards, and I missed one guitar. It wasnt the best place for making a memorable concert, but I saw some people really enthusiastic with their show, and they tried to cheer up the public, matter that Unreal Overflows forgot completely.





Kathaarsys
This band is probably the most international galician band of the moment in reference to Metal. They just came few time ago from doing a international touring around Europe!
Atmospheric Black Metal; Lots of calm passages and technical moments in quite long songs. I have to say, I got bored with their albums, it's difficult for me to stand them at once. I usually stop in the middle when I tried to listen to them. In fact I think I didnt listen the last whole album at once XDD
But Kathaarsys in live... it's unbeliavable. They are only 3, but they sound intense, exciting, full of force. They seemed quite shy also, but people there, mostly friends of them and us, cheered them up until the limit, maybe spreading our enthusiasm to some of the rest of public.
Really technical songs, as I said, and the guitarist is quite good, he sang, played all the guitar stuff, and it was quite obvious he couldnt cheer up at the same time XD There are very few ones they can do it, like Nergal of Behemoth :P
Girl bassist has presence and drummer is quite good either.
But just time... like Fallen or Unreal... Kathaarsys, with a good promotion can reach to be a good band at the level of the best national ones.





So we had a great time there, in spite of the small of the place and the not very good sound for the 2 first bands... but now I will talk about public.
I already talked a lot about public from Galicia in the post of Behemoth's concert. And this time I wanted to see how they behave with bands from our region. Well, I have found there the most palpable sign of what I call "frienship fans". I mean, we were all time almost there in front of the band, but with every band we could see different fans, that for sure were the friends, couples, or whatever of someone playing in the corresponding band. We were not fans of anyone (and the french erasmus guy even less XDD), we were just there attending to one concert, and trying to cheer up the band, if we saw they did it with motivation and we liked the show,whoever they were.
But it seemed to us that people there just cheered their friends up. In every band we found different people around us, until the point that we were joking between us.. "oh this band has 4 friends, that one 7.." and so on.
When one band left, people who were standing next to us left, and went out the pub having some fresh air or drinking one beer at the bottom of the pub. Then some new ones joined us, sometimes making space in front of us when we were the nearest to the band... hmm I really think they should cheer up all bands, not only the one whose friends are playing in. I have also some friend in one of these 3 bands, but I supported all, my neck and my voice is suffering still after 4 days, and my friends like me.
Apart from this, in every band we were just 10 people cheering.. sometimes I looked at behind and saw what you see in this pic. Public shutted up, standing with beers or not doing anything. Just like mummies.

In the last band, Kathaarsys, which did a excelent show, I looked few times behind me .. and I think if there wasnt a wall there, people would fall down. I still do not get the point of being in a concert just standing doing nothing. And I repeat here, public of rock and metal from Galicia, they have what they deserve. But then they shouldnt complain if the show is short or the band doesnt do a bis...

Here I thought it would be different, most of the public knew personally members of the bands. I thought they would shout and make headbanging and move some finger. But just the respective very friends of the respective bands did. And I guess, we 5 did more than all public there, "who had a lot of fun, and saw a great party" (what they are saying). Even musicians between themselves, most of them didnt support too much others. If they finished, they just left to the bottom or went out the pub.
Funny case of the members of Unreal Overflows, who were standing somewhere far the scenary when Kathaarsys were playing.. maybe drinking some beer or having a conversation far from the show. When Kathaarsys finished, public asked for more, mostly moved by their 4 (were they 4 or 5, guys? XDD) friends, and us, that transmited to some others. They decided to play a cover song of the band Death. Suddenly, fast like the wind, I guess just hearing the name Death, those members of Unreal Overflows made space coming almost running to the front of all people (and just in front of us) and started to scream, making headbanging and so on... It sounds funny at first, but it's not that much under my sight, I would like they had this reaction not only when that band played one song of their favourite musicians of all times.
I will just say that we have different views of what is a great show-concert, because I think I cannot stay just standing up if I like one band, and moreover if the band is asking for participation. I want to think that musicians also want to see that people are enjoying, and this is the best way to show them that, the best way to get they play more, and the best way to get bands to go out from the city with happy feeling and will of returning... Yes! I still think about the concert of Behemoth or After Forever or Catamenia or Skyclad or Corvus Corax... I also would like to know where were most of those people who were attending to this concert, musicians or public (I know some of them really follow the scene and concerts, I use to meet them there, but ... there were more people in this concert that I didnt see in those I ment...)
Come on! attend to concerts! and cheer up! If you dont do that, then dont complain about the few concerts, or that the bands are going away not very happy, seeing that even few, these few ones dont make noise. (This is general about public, I am not talking about someone in particular).
And maybe I will win some enemies with these words... but it's my point of view, and also was the thinking of my friends who were in that concert. And I think we have a quite objective point of view since we are not from the places of the bands, not friends, just in my case with one band, (hope you guys dont bother with this :)) and we have been in already some concerts abroad and here and saw how the ambient is in different places.
We have what we have...

6 comentarios:

Esmorga dijo...

gracias por acercarte al concierto.he leido tu cronica y es practicamente igual a la de Xoio Carnesi. En cosas no estoy de acuerdo aunke tu opinion me parece muy respetable.

Un saludo desde el esmorga. Me gusta tu blog.Si me esta permitido me paseare mas por aki.

Un cordial saludo^^

Enlil dijo...

Por suposto podes pasarte cando queiras por aqui!!
Faltaría máis!
Pero vamos a ver, vin ahora o ambiente moi caldeado e á defensiva no Basandere.
A crítica de Xoio sí que é moi parecida á miña, quizáis un pouco máis directa. Pero en ningun momento pretendo molestar a ninguén, e creo que polo que vin do seu comentario el tampouco. Eu simplemente falo da actitude en xeral do público en Galicia, e particularmente en Vigo, que é o que me toca máis cerca.
En ningun momento poño en duda profesionalidade a maña e o show en si. De feito eu paseimo en grande e volverei a participar nel se se monta outra vez. Como poño aqui, os 3 grupos son (senon os mellores) do mellor que hai por estas terras e casi diria que a nivel nacional.
O que non me gusta é que para cada grupo haxa uns poucos que animan moito. Un exemplo é que cada vez que miraba para atrás vía o que ves nunha das fotos que está neste post. Penso que se che gusta un grupo o minimo que podes facer é demostralo de algunha maneira. E ésta é a forma que o grupo pode darse de conta.
Que cada un pode mirar o concerto como queira.. seguro que sí!!!
Incluso traendo sillas da casa e sentandose enfrente para non gastar enerxias tamen.
Pero dame tremenda rabia que nos concertos que menciono aqui, todos en Vigo, o publico tivera sosísimo, que bandas coma Behemoth ou Catamenia se vaian sen facer un mísero bis e de mala gana porque ainda encima que hai poucos.. eses poucos non faigan un minimo ruido.
Non dudo que a pouca xente que estaba o pasara ben en ningun de eses concertos, pero hai que demostralo algo mais que en decirlle ó final ó grupo o ben que o fixeron. Por exemplo Behemoth, nin saliron saludar ós fans porque igual pensarian que de 150 o pasaron ben e vibraron un pouco con concerto 20. Asi que en ocasións coma esas non tes a oportunidade de decir o ben que o fixeron despois do concerto.
Eu se fora dos Behemoth, creo que non volvería por Vigo, sinceramente. E volvo a repetir, non penso que o publico o pasara mal, porque a verdade é que foi un conciertazo, tal coma este na Esmorga, pero boto en falta algo máis de movimiento (digoo en xeral).
Mira, eu veño de vivir 1 ano nun pais como Estonia. Tallinn ten 400.000 habitantes. Fun a moitisimos concerto alí, e teño que decir que o publico deixábase a pel nos concertos, e non falo de facer moshing nin nada, simplemente movendose, berraban, coreaban, animaban... A diferencia que me atopei cos concertos post-tallinn en Vigo é abismal!
E alí os grupos chegaban a facer non 1 senon a veces 2 bises. E notábase que se iban moi contentos, e posiblemente grupos coma Korpiklaani, Moonsorrow, Swallow the Sun, Atrocity, Leave's Eyes, Lordi, Apocalyptica, etc etc volvan a pasarse por esa cidade case que cada ano. O ambiente nas salas é o que fai que grupos foráneos sintan que teñen que volver porque divertiron ó público. E eso é o que non noto aqui. Pode que en concertos coma os ultimos que vivin aqui o publico pasara un gran rato, pero eu non o notei en absoluto.
E volvo a decir, esto en absoluto é unha critica ós grupos! Eles encantanme, como personas, e como músicos!!
É simplemente que boto en falta algo mais de implicacion do publico gallego en general.
Polo resto.. eu cando haxa outro ahi me tedes :P
E o que digo de que aqui hai o que hai, refirome tamen a que cantos menos nos concertos e cantos menos animen, menos concertos en xeral.
E volvo a decir jajaj
eres Morgana, non? non me digas eso de si che permito XDDDD
Eu non tou enfadado con ninguen! nin nada!!
E o que está ben é comentar diferentes opinións.. e se todos estiveramos de acordo.. pois qué aburrido :D
Pero vexo que no foro a veces saltase dunha maneira ultradefensiva cando alguen opina o contrario, parece que se feriran sensibilidades e todo!
O que si que volvo a reiterar, o publico gallego é soso, logo de ter visto moitos tipos de publico.

Esmorga dijo...

Si, son Morgana (Encantada ^^).Bueno.Eu non estou a defensiva.Non te preocupes ;)
Simplemente me gusta conocer opinions sempre ke sexan dende o respeto.A verdade eu non vin no foro ke estivesen moito a defensiva.Simplemente nos tamen temos dereito a dicir o ke pensamos.
Sinceramente sei ke o meu local non é o mellor local do mundo XDDDD pero intento facelo o mellor posible.Sei ke a súa acústica non é a mellor e teño visto a grupos soar realmente mal.Inda si aseguroche ke levaredes algunhas sorpresas XD...
En canto a o de ke a xente galega e sosa nos concertos estou totalmente de acordo.Kizais por eso aki temos o ke nos merecemos.Estamos a cola de todo e logo keixamonos pero realmente no lo buscamos nos.
E bueno, si pasan esas cousas en cidades como Vigo e Coruña imaxinate o ke pode ser estar nun pobo como Cambados na ke a sua época metaleira morreu hai xa uns cantos anos atras...
Desesperante, vamos! De feito eu xa non traballlo para a peña de Cambados por ke non responde.Paso xa dela e pa facer algo ke non me gusta prefiro non facelo.Sempre fun de ir a dalo todo os concertos e incluso as veces penso ke me involucro demasiado nos do Esmorga cando un grupo me gusta.Pero tamen respeto a xente ke lles gusta ver un concerto ca copa na man de tranki.O importante penso ke estar ahi cando un grupo che gusta...Como é o caso destes tres grupos. Levaba moito tempo detras de eles ata ke por fin os puiden xuntar.Pra min é un logro.Sei ke non son Behemoth, pero para min na terra temos grandes bandas ke kizais si fosen do norte de Europa estarian ahi arriba.
Eu penso ke as veces metennos os grupos de afora con calzador e nin sekera sabemos o ke temos na casa. Unha pena...
Oe, e ke sepas ke me gusta leerte mais en galego ke en español.
Espero voltarte a ver pronto polo Esmorga.E KE TE PRESENTES!!!!!

O proximo bolo confirmadisimo sera Sicred Sin e Barbarian Prophecies o 22 de marzo inda ke kizaius meta algo de relleno antes pero en plan light. Ademais o 22 celebrarei o meu cumple co cal habera champan e un pekeno katerin ^^
A ver si te animas e bueno...Un pracer poder discutir de bo rollo contigo.

Un cordial saúdo^^

Esmorga dijo...

ah, perdoa.Tamen keria saber si me das permiso pra colgar as fotos no myspace do Esmorga.Hai algunhas ke me gustan realmente moito.

Un saúdo^^.

Enlil dijo...

jeje por suposto podes pillar o que queiras de aqui!
(Supoño que sabes que se clickeas encima das fotos fanse mais grandes, con mais calidade. Sempre digo esto desde que un amigo meu me dixo que poñia fotos moi pequenas XD)
Claro que a xente ten dereito de decir o que pensa.. faltaría mais! E por suposto eu cando puxen este post sabia que habia xente que non estaría de acordo.. pero si que creo que estaban á defensiva con comentarios coma :
"Solemne estupidez de pensar que para apoyar a un grupo hay que dejarse las cervicales o el tipo durante el conci....."
Creo que ese rapaz non sei se entendeu ou quixo entender mal, claro que apoyar un grupo é mais, pero eu, particularmente, e debe ser entonces que son mais do norte (paises do norte) gustame berrar, gritar "Zarandón guapooo!!" XDD, facer headbanging e todo o posible para que o grupo se dé cuenta de que alomenos hai un que lle está molando o que están tocando.
Imaxinaste que nunha sala na que haxa 300 personas todos se comportaran como se visen un programa de tv apoyados contra a parede e cunha birra na man e que ninguen dixera nada cando o grupo os incitara a animarse? Eu se fora do grupo sentiriame completamente deprimido ou frustrado!
E si, vivin xusto eso mesmiño fai uns anos cando tocaron "The Heretic" no Anoeta e taba eu con outro rapaz ó lado deles (non o conocía de nada e acabamos berrando e facendo headbanging xuntos XDD) e o resto da sala estaba a 3 metros!!! do escenario. Cada vez que o cantante lles pedia que se acercaran.. a xente mirabanse entre eles e sorrian despectivamente. E cada vez que pedia cornos ou berrar ó son da musica.. xa sabes, o de "hei hei hei hei" ninguén decía nada! E de verdad, foi un concierto cojonudo, e eso que non son dos meus...
Pero eles solo tiñan a 2 personas que mostraron disfrutar do concerto. E non creo que volvan na vida a Vigo.
Respeto que se a xente lle guste mais tar calada cunha cerveza na man, pero que non se queixen despois de que os grupos non pasan do pais vasco por un lado e de madrid por abaixo.
Gustaríame que vises este comenzo do concerto de korpiklaani e comparases cos de por aqui. Érame casi imposible manter a camara dereita debido ó fervor do público, que xa levabamos hora e pico de concierto con outros grupos, e cando saleu korpiklaani eso desbordouse con cada canción. Pero non nas primeiras filas, senon toda a sala! E eses que ves diante miña que non deixaban de saltar cos brazos en alto cos cornos estiveron todas... as máis de 3 horas de concerto dese dia asi! E con razón korpiklaani fixeran 2 bises e seguramente deixaron Tallinn cunha impresión enorme (e ganas de voltar).
Alí vivin os concertos máis intensos que nunca presenciara na miña vida, porque tal ambiente de entusiasmo acababate contagiando, e con razón a pesar de ser unha cidade mais ou menos igual ca Vigo,eles podense permitir levar a xente coma Nightwish (setembro, o seu primeiro concerto con Anette), Apocalyptica, Ozzy, Korn, Marilyn Manson, Lordi, Paradise Lost, Samael, Anathema e semejantes. Porque non é solo que o público pague a entrada, senon que bandas grandes e pequenas presencian un entusiasmo do público que parece que nunca tiveran antes nun concerto. E eso que teñen cada pouco un..
Vamos, casi igual que Skyclad aqui... jeje
Tiña ganas de escribir algo no foro, pero teño a impresión de que vou repetir o que digo aqui :( ..
hmm bueno, tal vez poña o link desto, uf tou dun vago.. xa jajaja
Bueno, por outro lado, mostrarche toda a miña admiración e ánimos para que sigas asi, eu se teño oportunidade e poido, iría encantado outra vez. Xa che digo que o pasei en grande ainda que o local non dera pa un completo bon sonido.. pero en serio que o repetía, ainda que Cambados non me queda moi cerca de Vigo XD e teño que depender de outros para ir ... :(
22 de marzo estarei no meu pobo natal por aló na costa norte, pero estarei atento a mais concertos, non te preocupes ;)
E sorte co pub. Eu tamen teño un amigo cerca do meu pobo que tiña un pub de metal, e tivo que cerrar fai un tempo por pouca afluencia :( e ahora tamos sin rumbo ningun jeje
Saudos!

Enlil dijo...

Ah o do idioma!
Eu escribia en gallego cando empecei esto en Estonia, porque era un blog de aventuras (nunca mellor dito.. o que me pase a min..) para a xente de Galicia. Ahora que volvin, a xente pode saber das aventuras directamente por min. Pero fixen moitos amigos de moitas partes do mundo que me dixeron que solo se papaban das fotos pero que non entendian nada. Asi que, a pesar de que a veces volvo ó gallego, a maior parte das cousas decidin mostralas en inglés para eles. De feito 1 de cada 2 visitas fanse desde o extranxeiro, e eu tómomo tamén coma unha especie de entrenamiento para non perder de todo o inglés, que aqui casi que solo poido practicar con alumnos erasmus :(
Ainda asi,xa che digo que a veces volvarei ó meu idioma ;)